Scripture reference issues

Hi and trust your well.  I'm hoping you might be able to improved how scriptures are displayed or support variations, as well as a few minor bugs I'd like to report.

1.  My main probem is that you use a semi-colon as a scripture delimiter, eg.  "John 3:16; Acts 3:1" and I have recently moved away from using the Biblegatway ref. tagger and over to the new Bolls Life one which is fantastic.  The only change I need is the full stops are used instead of semi-colons. eg. "John 3:16. Acts 3:1" because this was the only way he could find to resolve in correctly linking references (which the biblegatway also suffered from). For example, here "Exodus 25:40; 1 Chronicles 28:1-20;"  1 Chronicles is not linked because the 1 in considered a part of the previous reference, ie. "Exodus 25:40; 1" so adding a full stop makes it clear its not associated.

2. There is a dark mode issue where in edit mode added scriptures are difficult to read, here is an example.

The other points are mode wish lists, I find the entry method rather slow and clunky and doesn't support references like "John 2:2-5,7-9; 3:23-30".  I get that scriptures need to be validated for filtering and stored with consistency but there might be room for interface improvement now days, even little things like making the Book drop down filter selected so keyboard use can be immediate without a mouse click would help.  As you can see here we include a lot of scripture references httn.net/audio-teachings

Many thanks
Brendan

Hi Brendan
Thanks for your feedback. I can show you some quick fixes you can do yourself easily:

1) That separator is specified in the layout. You can override/customise that layout in your template with the Joomla Template Manager. Look for a line that looks like this: You can adjust the second parameter of that function ('; ') to any you like. So eg just replace the ; with your . there and it will work.

2) That's indeed a bad color choice (some very old ones actually) there. I have to look if I can reuse some generic bootstrap classes there, so they get inherited dark theme colors.
For now, you could use custom CSS to adjust the colors for the following rules:
3) I think it should be possible to have the dropdown selected, I have to look into that. As for the custom scripture formats, that's a bit more complicated as SermonSpeaker adjust the scripture based on the active language. Eg in english it will be written as "John 3:16", while in german it is written as "Johannes 3,16". So SermonSpeaker needs to have the scripture broken down into its bits. If you have multiple passages in the same book, you have to add them as multiple scripture references, not as one. Or you can use the freetext field, if you don't use the plugin tags, translation and filtering parts.

Thanks Thomas, while playing around I switched to layout to List, oddly the default for list view is '.;' ie. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6.; 2 Corinthians 11:1-15.; so I'll probably override to clean it up a little but its working for now.
I note that none of the layout apart from Tiles have sermon description, just wondering why that was a choice?
Cheers

Which view are you using? ".;" sounds like a bug

The sermon notes is available in the sermon detail layouts and the blog, columns, list and tiles layout from the sermons views. The reason is that the description may contain HTML tags or is to long and it tend to break the layout.
But you can add it in your custom layout with $item->notes if you like.

Sorry was away. The .; issue appears when using the Sermons List, List layout view.

I'll use a custom format and try making it work better for our style.

A few features you might want to consider.

1. support for transcription
We've started including this from time to time and there is no where to put them other than in the sermon notes which makes a mess of course, or a linked article which is not ideal either.  With ai transcripts becoming more common a timestamp supporting player would be great too, but that's a different story again.
2. A dedicated introduction field
IMHO the current sermon notes field works more like an intro field currently and is suitable for a short sermon description which.  But it becomes messy if you wish to include more extensive information/images etc.

Thanks again

Sorry for the delay as well. I had some holidays and other stuff

Today I had some time to look at the dark mode issues and the focus in the modal. That should be better now. You can have a look with the attached version.